Carve Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 Just as implied in the topic title, will it be possible to pre-order for a certain percentage off for previous Leadwerks 2 developers? Quote
Josh Posted May 18, 2011 Posted May 18, 2011 The beta will be for sale only to existing LE2 developers, at a substantial discount. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without.
Carve Posted May 18, 2011 Author Posted May 18, 2011 Nice work Josh, I'm anxiously anticipating your bmax to c\c++ translations and the new additions! Quote
gamecreator Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Do I remember right that purchasing the beta also means you've purchased the final release? Or will there be another charge for the full version (upgrade)? Quote
Josh Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Buying the beta gets you the finished 3.0 release. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without.
Richard Simpson Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 I know you have had this question many times in the past, and I feel like a pain asking it. But do you have a rough idea on the price the beta will go for? And would you mind sharing with us if you do have a rough idea? Quote Intel core 2 quad 6600 | Nvidia Geforce GTX460 1GB | 2GB DDR2 Ram | Windows 7. Google Sketchup | Photoshop | Blender | UU3D | Leadwerks Engine 2.4
Josh Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 I don't know because it depends on what I am able to fit in before the release. If I predict too high, then people get upset because the things they read in my blog don't justify the price. If I say too low, then people get upset when the price turns out to be higher. There are still a lot of unknown things I am researching. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without.
Richard Simpson Posted May 20, 2011 Posted May 20, 2011 Ah okay, I understand. Thanks. Quote Intel core 2 quad 6600 | Nvidia Geforce GTX460 1GB | 2GB DDR2 Ram | Windows 7. Google Sketchup | Photoshop | Blender | UU3D | Leadwerks Engine 2.4
niv3k Posted May 21, 2011 Posted May 21, 2011 well you could always just choose an in between price compared to your High and Low. seems simple to me. ha Quote
Pixel Perfect Posted May 21, 2011 Posted May 21, 2011 Decisions are always easy when the consequences do not affect you Quote Intel Core i5 2.66 GHz, Asus P7P55D, 8Gb DDR3 RAM, GTX460 1Gb DDR5, Windows 7 (x64), LE Editor, GMax, 3DWS, UU3D Pro, Texture Maker Pro, Shader Map Pro. Development language: C/C++
gamecreator Posted May 21, 2011 Posted May 21, 2011 Thanks Josh. And in another form, that would be a wise saying Pixel Perfect. Quote
Saoru71 Posted May 22, 2011 Posted May 22, 2011 Totally looking forward to that beta pre-order. Starting to save a part of each job's fee for it ps. Great idea having the LE3 forums. Quote My signature was so outdated! I don't know if it's even relevant nowadays...
Pixel Perfect Posted May 24, 2011 Posted May 24, 2011 Thanks Josh. And in another form, that would be a wise saying Pixel Perfect. I wasn't trying to be wise; just simply responding to Kevin's comment and pointing out that the consequences to Josh of guestimating the engine cost at this point are real, as Josh has already highlighted, whilst the consequences to Kevin are zero at this point. Quote Intel Core i5 2.66 GHz, Asus P7P55D, 8Gb DDR3 RAM, GTX460 1Gb DDR5, Windows 7 (x64), LE Editor, GMax, 3DWS, UU3D Pro, Texture Maker Pro, Shader Map Pro. Development language: C/C++
Michael Betke Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 I never understood the benefit of a pre-order. Quote Pure3d Visualizations Germany - digital essences AAA 3D Model Shop specialized on nature and environments
Roland Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 I never understood the benefit of a pre-order. I do. At least for the pre-orders I have done for other softwares. Combined with a pre-order there is a discount on the price by most company's. But in this case I have to agree with Josh. Its way to early to set a price. Quote Roland Strålberg Website: https://rstralberg.com
Canardia Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 You can sell a product which doesn't exist with a pre-order, and use the pre-order money to start developing the product. So you can basically start any project with zero budget. Quote ■ Ryzen 9 ■ RX 6800M ■ 16GB ■ XF8 ■ Windows 11 ■ ■ Ultra ■ LE 2.5 ■ 3DWS 5.6 ■ Reaper ■ C/C++ ■ C# ■ Fortran 2008 ■ Story ■ ■ Homepage: https://canardia.com ■
Xzess Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 yeah preorder is just great, the developer and the customer, both profit from it Quote
cassius Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Compared with Unity pro and many other game engines Le 2 is very cheap. I am hoping this big difference will also be the same for Le 3. Quote amd quad core 4 ghz / geforce 660 ti 2gb / win 10 Blender,gimp,silo2,ac3d,,audacity,Hexagon / using c++
gordonramp Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 Cassius, The reason LE2 is cheap compared to Unity pro is because it has only a fraction of the features. Quote AMD Athlon x2 7750 2.7ghz, 6gb ddr2 ram, Galaxy9800GT 1gig ddr2 video card, Windows 7,64.
cassius Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 I know but I would never need many of them. Quote amd quad core 4 ghz / geforce 660 ti 2gb / win 10 Blender,gimp,silo2,ac3d,,audacity,Hexagon / using c++
Laurens Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 Cassius, The reason LE2 is cheap compared to Unity pro is because it has only a fraction of the features. I tend to disagree. Granted, Unity has a far better editor, but engine-wise I think LE runs circles around Unity, in both eye-candy and API usability. Quote
Josh Posted June 25, 2011 Posted June 25, 2011 The upgrade to LE3 will cost substantially less than a Unity license. I can't comment on the price of a new license, because I don't know at this time what it will be. Quote My job is to make tools you love, with the features you want, and performance you can't live without.
Marcus Posted July 9, 2011 Posted July 9, 2011 The upgrade to LE3 will cost substantially less than a Unity license. I can't comment on the price of a new license, because I don't know at this time what it will be. Sounds like a good plan. I would take a very conservative path towards approaching higher prices for licenses. Remember that Unity 3D has a LOT of buzz around it (deserved or not). They also have a number of expensive third party software built in. I have no doubt that LE3 will be awesome, just price it for building a customer base first and then make your money on major updates and slowly increase the entry price. There are a lot of people who piss and moan about paying for major updates. In my opinion, paying for major updates is beneficial for the customer and the developer. It gives the developer a true incentive to provide quality updates. If the update isn't worth the price, the customers won't pay for it. This forces the developer to innovate and add useful features. A great case study for this is to compare the path of GarageGames vs Unity. GarageGames gave free updates forever and went no where. You may want to consider releasing a OpenGL 1.x only version for free or for a very low price. It would be a great strategy to also offer a license for all platforms in the pro license (minus XBOX, PS3, Wii, etc). Quote
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